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coming up on r t a new poll shows what americans really think about the n.s.a. it turns out most support the government surveillance program but they also don't consider edward snowden's leak to be criminal extended coverage of the n.s.a. leak case ahead a new report looks at the numbers of shootings behind the f.b.i. f.b.i. and how all of them mostly are considered justified it uses of force but is that really the case a deeper look at the numbers coming up. and that is your taxpayer money being spent wisely the pentagon wants millions of dollars back from boeing for excessive charges on numerous parts will dive into the nuts and bolts of this story later today.
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it's thursday june twentieth four pm in washington d.c. i'm back in lopez and you are watching r.t. well more information is coming out from the guardian today detailing the types of information the n.s.a. can and has collected in the past when it comes to american citizens here's what we found out while the prism nucleon and main way programs are mostly used to collect information on foreign entities and on american citizens u.s. communications can still be collected retained and used for five years here's why if it contains a usable intelligence information on criminal activity threat of harm to people or property if they're encrypted or are believed to contain any information relevant to cyber security whatsoever they can be retained but as for a matter of transparency both present and past and say officials argue that the process is as transparent as possible. we wanted to keep the operation itself
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secret we felt it was sufficient to brief five hundred thirty members of the american congress in both the senate and in the house of representatives when it comes to transparency you know look i would love to tell three hundred twenty million americans exactly what it is we're doing to keep them safe because i frankly think almost all of them would be really happy about it but i haven't figured out a way to tell three hundred twenty million of my countrymen without letting the people we're trying to catch find out about what it is we're doing to and that becomes a serious tradeoff here but even without that information it looks like the majority of americans are in fact happy about this take a look at this new washington post a.b.c. news poll when it comes to the intelligence gathering program it turns out fifty eight percent of americans are supportive of the government overall democrats are more accepting of the snooping than republicans and independents now when it comes to what to do with n.s.a.
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leaker edward snowden the public a splint about down the middle about charging him with a crime but if one thing is obvious most americans might be ok with their surveillance but they do want to know more about it sixty five percent support a public airing to find out exactly what these programs do now one thing that we have learned from the house hearing on the n.s.a. surveillance. so people are authorized to approve which phone numbers will be surveilled that's according to director general keith alexander however it is also true that millions of other employees have access to confidential and secret materials in fact it's four point nine million people currently have that clearance and of those people one point four million have access to top secret information now because of the amount of information going into and out of the agency is in that amount is constantly changing the number of people needed to go through all of this information it needs to mirror that expansion and that could open the door to
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even more secret spellers like edward snowden in the future political commentator sam sacks explains when did you as we're blew the whistle in one thousand nine hundred you want to exposing the secrets of the vietnam war our government was put on notice they didn't just have to keep their secrets safe from spies within but also from whistleblowers within men and women trying to bring the truth to the american people. it would take another thirty years until after nine eleven for the government to learn the lesson again when a new batch of truth tellers stood up to blow the whistle thomas drake john kiriakou bradley manning edward snowden those are just a few of the high profile whistleblowers who in just the last few years have exposed some of the american government's darkest secrets from warrantless domestic surveillance the cia's torture programs to war crimes. and it's left those agencies in our government that depend on keeping secrets scrambling to find
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a way to better keep their secrets but that task is very difficult today mainly because the national security state has grown too large to control now since nine eleven the size of the national security complex and all of its secrets have grown considerably there now are nearly five million people in the united states with security clearance that's almost two percent of the entire population of those five million roughly twenty eight percent of them have top secret clearance and about ten percent have top secret clearance and don't work for the government but instead work for a private contractor like booz allen and most frightening to the government agencies in charge of keeping these secrets any one of those five million people with security clearance could be the next edward snowden or the next bradley manning former n.s.a. and cia director michael hayden believes one way to stop the whistle blowing is continuous monitoring of those who have the secrets i actually think what we need is a different kind of security structure perhaps not fewer security clearances but
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a better way to go about clearing people for sensitive information right now we load up an awful lot on the front end lots of investigations polygraph examinations and so on perhaps that's not the best place to put all of our energy and maybe we should put our energy in terms of continuous monitoring another approach the government is taking toward whistleblowers excessive punishment the. obama administration has attempted to prosecute more whistleblowers under the espionage act than any presidential administration in history combined but as just one radical a whistleblower herself an attorney for notable whistleblowers argues this strategy hasn't worked the more they crack down a whistleblower is i mean they cracked down on tom drake but manning still blew the whistle and i mean manning's been treated a horrible way has been incarcerated for three years including torture during part of that time yet snowden still blew the whistle so who will be the next
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whistleblower in the last few weeks we've learned of massive snooping programs like prism nucleon in mainway to collect quantities of data on american citizens that are in comprehensible but there's still a lot more to learn about the inner workings of the national security state and snowden himself is promising more revelations in the days and weeks to come the question is what effect will more truthtelling have on the american people's view of these top secret programs i think historically yes we will look back on this period of time and date and i think it's horrible and completely antithetical to a free and open democratic society i have no doubt in a couple decades that will be true with five million people holding security clearances we know it takes a lot of manpower to maintain this level of surveillance and that ultimately is the main weakness of these programs if they're dismantled they won't be from without
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but instead from within thanks to what can be described today as a whistleblower revolution in washington sam sacks are two. well it's official the u.s. is turning a corner in the war now on afghanistan according to government officials the u.s. has agreed to engage in its first formal negotiations with the taliban about how to achieve peace and the decade long war there now this is quite an about face take a look at how quickly the u.s. has evolved on the taliban the united states of america makes the following demands on the down close immediately incrementally every terrorist training. the taliban regime. is coming to any. day she respects the people of afghanistan after all we are only its largest source of humanitarian aid but we. are nations to process between government and the time we read this
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passage should be advanced by the opening of the time to facilitate talks the first meeting will take place in doha qatar after washington dropped its longstanding demand for the group to renounce all kind of as a precondition for talks it's all part of the peace process president obama has been alluding to as he looks ahead to two thousand and fourteen now it should be mentioned that we have seen these peace talks fizzle out before in the past before they actually came into for a wishin and that could very well happen again but this is the closest the u.s. has come to negotiations in quite some time the taliban has also offered to free u.s. army sergeant bowe bergdahl who has been held captive since two thousand and nine but they are asking for the release of tal about leaders from guantanamo bay in return now we do not know how much of a role afghanistan president hamid karzai will actually have in any of these talks . to brazil now where protests continue to grow both in size and severity what
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started off as a demonstration against added transportation fees has swelled to mass anti-government demonstrations these protests continue even after authorities in rio de janeiro and sao paulo promised to reverse these extra costs are to correspondent liz wahl brings us some background on the brazil protests. massive protests persist in brazil they're the largest demonstrations the country has seen in twenty years it started out as a small protest against raising public bus fares but it turned out to be much more demonstrations have been going on in rio de janeiro paulo brazil yes salvador and other cities. oh this is the scene in sao paulo tens of thousands of people flooding the streets the huge demonstrations have been mostly peaceful but at times turn chaotic with protesters throwing objects and setting cars on fire police have responded by
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shooting rubber bullets and tear gas into the crowds of protesters but the protests are organized mostly by college students the majority of those taking part have higher education and more than half of them are twenty five years old or younger brazilians say they're angry over poor government services high taxes and splurging on sports stadiums millions of dollars are being spent on preparing for next year's world cup and the two thousand and sixteen olympic games in rio de janeiro protesters say fun should instead be spent on critical services like education and health care here's a breakdown of what exactly they're protesting against fifty six percent are protesting against increased faiers forty percent against corruption thirty one percent against violence and oppression twenty seven percent want a better transportation system and twenty four percent are demonstrating against politicians that they say are corrupt government officials have criticized the lack
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of a unified message among protesters but the president of brazil has praised the demonstrations and since the protests sparked authorities have announced they are backing down from raising the bus fares but at this point it seems that's not enough there's no clear end in sight with protesters saying the biggest demonstrations are planned for today in washington liz wall r.t. . now traditionally we have heard horror stories of average american citizens being wrongly charged by the government for money that they didn't know government overreach some screamed ira's corruption another said but when it comes to defense spending it looks like the shoe is on the other foot according to an audit conducted by the office of inspector general womyn has been overreaching the u.s. government over charging the u.s. government excuse me millions of dollars for parts and for production here are a few examples aluminum bearing sleeves used on an aircraft's main landing gear
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door usually cost about ten bucks won't charge the pentagon two thousand two hundred eighty six dollars per part another example the control surface part kit that attaches to an aircraft's left elevator should cost about four thousand dollars while in charge of the pentagon more than twice that the channel engine structural support on the a c one thirty you gunship cost about thirteen hundred bucks back in the real world in boeing terms that means seventeen thousand six hundred twenty eight dollars per part and finally the metal tube assembly is that cover aircraft engines struts cost around twelve thousand four hundred sixty seven dollars anywhere else but when you buy it from boeing it cost twenty two thousand six hundred dollars per part now in all boeing knows the government a whopping thirteen point seven million dollars that we know about so is this standard operating procedure or is boeing ripping the pentagon and therefore american taxpayers off well for more i'm joined by michael skate thank you so much
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for joining me sir so let's talk about this over a burden of money overcharging how is boeing getting away with it for so long. because every other company. defense contractors been doing it whether it was keep your in him. four thousand dollars for a circuit breaker that would cost on the market a normal market you buy it for two hundred bucks they're charging four thousand so it is standard protocol within the defense contractor industry to overbill sometimes we find out about it sometimes we don't even the pentagon itself hasn't done an audit on all financial expenditures they don't claim to do an auditor to be able to even do an audit until twenty seventeen so in terms of taxpayer dollars it puts the i.r.s. conference scandal in stark perspective because that's peanuts compared to the kind of the millions that we're talking about here so you're saying this is an isolated incident someone question to you is why is it taking the pentagon so long to to notice these problems do they just simply not care about this these nickels and
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dimes it is as it could be described so a couple reasons one they haven't subscribed to an audit they need to they're only one of two departments in the administration that haven't done an audit the other is department of homeland security second in a war zone it's very easy to profiteer off a war just take several examples you cited the i.g. office of inspector general even staff sergeants at the very very base level junior level military bringing back millions of dollars in d.v.d. recording facility tens of thousand dollars in teddy bears one hundred thousand dollars in backpacks the only reason we're finding out about it is either because of the special special inspector general for iraq reconstruction stuart bowen or a special inspector general it's a mouthful for afghanistan reconstruction on top of the problem with cigar insecure this acronym for both is that there mandates are short and centrally even before the war ends we don't have a permanent office for a special inspector general for overseas contingency operations that's what wars are called where we can monitor and do oversight over american taxpayer dollars
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otherwise we're only going to continue see more bones more even more k.b.r. more and him sort of charging over billing the government or staff sergeants where they're putting a million dollars in d.v.d. recorders ten thousand dollars in you know a teddy bear one hundred thousand dollars in a backpack this is a serious problem it's a serious waste fraud abuse corruption. back ski problem and the american taxpayer . is there any indication of exactly how much money of the pentagon's budget we're wasting so if you look at joe stiglitz work or linda bilmes work when they're talking about forty six trillion dollars spent on iraq and afghanistan pentagon would say we've spent one point four trillion it's actually forty six if you count in veterans' benefits and things like that i would say eighty cents on the dollar comes back to the u.s. or to foreign contractors we're leaving little infrastructure in place under stuart bowen special inspector general for iraq reconstruction essentially finished his report this year saying we've left nothing in the country no wonder they're engaged in violence because art the infrastructure we left it pales in comparison to what they had pretty invasion so we need permit capacities independent of the pentagon
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keep in mind the cigar and see here are within the pentagon walls so it's kind of like keeping your colleagues accountable is very difficult to do unless you have independent oversight so until we have a permanent office for overseas contingency operations to provide real oversight we'll see more of these boeing examples well one of the offices that you mentioned that is part of this oversight is the cigar that's the afghanistan. faction of that now today cigar released a letter warning the state do you know day and usa idea of serious problems involving failures in prime contractors to pay subcontractors in afghanistan now the reason that they say that this is a problem is because it puts at risk the entire mission in afghanistan because it means that we could be losing support what the afghanistan people it could also delay or end many of those projects those reconstruction projects that we have been spending millions and billions of dollars on so can you talk about this just
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a little bit two points first to john's up go i met with him when i was congressional staffer on the hill he's doing a better job than his predecessor the fields who several members of congress called for the firing of because he just wasn't doing a good investigation so we're finally doing better investigation with the cigar and stuart bowen at six years leading the way but in terms of what the afghan people are the iraqis. people are seen there seen development that's done primarily by foreign contractors whether it's come on ics or in or as the i see your idea. who are doing it behind the wire under heavy security and so the afghan people aren't seen their schools reconstructed in a meaningful way or the roads rebuilt and even so if they are they're done under water under security so they're not using them because the taliban might hit them the real approach or developments local level and we have just a very short amount of time left but can you tell me very quickly what's the solution here yet so we need to make these oversight capabilities permanent so merging the cigar insecure into a permanent office where we do oversight but i think long term the way we reconstruct these countries has to be down to local level with local oversight
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local leadership that's the only way we're going to provide stability in the construction these countries so get the people involved in order to create the country that they want to live in michael shank director of foreign policy at the friends committee on national legislation thank you so much for coming in. we turn now to a possible breakthrough on the phone in the ongoing guantanamo bay hunger strike that has been taking place since february senate intelligence committee chairwoman dianne feinstein sent out a letter to secretary of defense chuck hagel yesterday asking for an end to force feeding practices in the letter she said quote hunger strikes are long known a form of nonviolent protest bringing attention to a cause rather than attempt of suicide i believe that the current approach raises very important ethical questions and complicates the difficult situation regarding the continued indefinite detention at guantanamo i urge you to re-evaluate the force feeding policies at guantanamo bay and to put in place the most humane possible policies possible feinstein also raised a number of international ethics and medical concerns with the practice she had
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a chance to see the situation firsthand when she visited get mown on june seventh while there are feinstein noted that sixty percent of the one hundred sixty six detainees are on a hunger strike and over forty of them are currently being force fed both senator feinstein and r.t. are currently awaiting a response to this letter now in the manhunt for the boston marathon bombers local and federal law officers pulled out all stops to track down the killers even after that fateful night where once our brother was killed and the other apprehended the f.b.i. continue to follow leads a chechen man who was friends with the brothers was questioned soon after for an unrelated event but was shot and killed by f.b.i. agents but even todashev is not the first person the f.b.i. has opened fired on in recent years and his death was considered justified however according to an f.b.i. spokesman since two thousand and eleven there have been no findings of improper or intentional shooting what's more internal f.b.i.
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records obtained by the new york times through a freedom of information act lawsuit discovered that out of two hundred eighty nine deliberate shootings only five were described as quote bad shootings and the agents were deemed for. lists and one hundred fifty other cases for more on these numbers i'm joined now by david to chile he's the managing editor at reason twenty four seven hi there jay thank you so much for joining us so what is going on here is it really possible that all these shootings were one hundred percent justified but even theoretically i suppose in a perfect world of the greats of every shooting the if the engagement was justified i doubt that's the case we do know that. the few cases that involve nobody actually getting injured. it's met the ice and i've been disciplined i believe it's total five over the last twenty years or so whenever anytime somebody has been actually been shot or killed the shooting to squeeze the trigger has been given a pass on that's the magic phrase here seems to be to tally the circumstances of
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the f.b.o. which invokes a look at the totality of circumstances and decide that the matter what anybody else might think the issue did was justified now are there any reason instances that we know of where the shooting was not justified. oh absolutely there was a cave first of all it's very rare for anybody else to look at it in the shooting except for the f.b.i. itself so i very often it's difficult for us to see you even to have a second opinion of what went on a kid on a very rare occasion somebody else does look at it we know there was an instance where the f.b.i. was looking for a seeking out bank robber and somebody who matched the description that they were looking for showed up was an innocent man who just was dressed the same way and in a similar vehicle as a person they were expecting they ended up shooting him not fatally fortunately i ultimately he was awarded one point three million dollars in damages and the case was ruled the shooting was ruled justified now a civil court awarded one point three million dollars in damages to an innocent man
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was that was very explicitly not the target of the f.b.i. stakeout you think that it would not be a righteous shooting if you had decided otherwise so we take this case where somebody outside of the f.b.i. a very rare circumstance looked at the you know i would go to a different conclusion to what the f.b.i. of silicon loaded and spread that across the other cases it's highly likely going to find that some of this other hundred fifty incidents probably were not justified either now in jail some of the possible explanations that the f.b.i. gave for why all these shootings were justified or that agents tend to be older and more sperry and stand better trained also they are generally involved in and they only on the operations where x. sense of planning has happened and they tend to go in with quote overwhelming presence and or in some minimize the chaos the shootings and things that could possibly go wrong now in your opinion do these arguments hold weights. but some of these are valid and you should be trained at a higher level agents are better educated are better trained are older than your
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average city a city police officer but that doesn't mean that there's absolutely no flaws and how the human beings who staff the f.b.i. go about their actions that some really unbelievable and we know from the address of schwarz case that there have at least been some incidents where outsiders have come into office you conclusions from the f.b.i. and it's really hard to believe that human beings with all of their flaws even at a federal level or engage in no mistakes whatsoever so no i mean overall are the f.b.i. agents are working at a higher level than a city police officer probably at least most cities but at a perfect level no nobody operates at a perfect level that's not believable so finally j.v. what's been happening here for some day watching over the f.b.i. . what is happening is that is really what happened well you know basically agencies should not be investigating the cells and the i office agent isn't gaijin the shooting the f.b.i. should not be the law agent so that f.b.i. agent should not be the ones to investigate and determine whether that agent was
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engaging in a right shooting the sting of course goes for police officers police departments the f.b.i. tend to set the tone for the city police departments around the country and it's become notorious for police forces to sign off on the shootings of the police officers even when local journalists and many residents who live in the area in the same jurisdiction know for certain that this that the circumstances were bizarre and really didn't match the official story the f.b.i. is setting a tone for police officers this is a larger matter than just the f.b.i. itself because the f.b.i. creates the you know the the protocols by which other police departments operate so there's some but he outside of the f.b.i. should investigate their shootings just as outside agencies should investigate police department shootings hate intentionally menacing editor reason twenty four seven thank you so much for writing and thank you for having me on. well it was last fall when superstorm sandy rolled up to the east coast leaving behind a path of destruction in new york city took a major hit was flooding and structural damage in several low lying areas now many
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scientists believe sandy was a preview of future storms to come all thanks to climate change now new york city mayor michael bloomberg says the city is ready to spend billions in order to try to prevent that future a possibility of becoming a reality artie's margaret howell has more. new york city is the full szell and cultural epicenter of the world but it does have one weakness it is no match for a major storm like sandy the city's glaring vulnerability to a natural disaster was brought to light when storm sandy swept through the streets of manhattan eight months ago it shocked even experts with its devastation sandy took down half of lower manhattan wreaking billions of damage a new york city residents flooding subway stations and destroying urban landscapes so michael bloomberg decided to take on climate change dumping twenty billion dollars into fortifying the city and new york's coastline he's taking
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a cue from london and st petersburg russia where n.y.c. would have those gates that would close against the storm surge in addition to locking up the city he plans to build storm barriers in the new york harbor and to new rail tunnels under the hudson river. even with bloomberg proposed blockades surrounding the york if another sandy hit just too would suffer why pathetically lower manhattan would be the most vulnerable the lower east side with one of the hardest hit by sandy like chinatown hudson yards chelsea lower manhattan in tribeca and some of the hardest hit by sandy would still take a beating if another hurricane happen without some measures in place new york as of today is still vulnerable but was bloomberg at the helm and he's trying to change all that time will tell of us measures will be enough in washington margaret howell r.c. that does it for now for more on the story as a cover go to youtube dot com slash archie america check out my twitter page meghan
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good afternoon and welcome to prime interest i'm bob english in washington d.c. area and has a day off so here are the stories we're tracking today now the markets are showing no love for bernanke in the thread after him to yesterday that said might wind down quantitative easing in the u.s. responded sold off during the day and again overnight and again during today s. and p. five hundred open below key technical support this morning and the money is not flowing into bonds as it's had been in the past instead somewhat reminiscent of two thousand and eight money is flowing into cash namely the u.s. dollar and in another twist money is also flowing out of emerging markets at the fastest pace since two thousand and eleven we'll talk about the markets and the fed with will neil ferguson and a floor trader ben well as in a little bit and just when you thought that.

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